Discussion:
The history of tmux
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David Chanters
2015-02-05 22:10:22 UTC
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Hey everyone,

I'm really enjoying tmux, and thank you to everyone who makes it possible!

What's the story behind tmux, and how did it start? Having read the
tmux FAQ, it's clear the author wasn't keen on the gnu screen code.
What difficulties were encountered in writing tmux from scratch?

tmux being some kind of mediator between the terminal and the
application running in tmux, is that where a lot of the challenges
come from?

To what extent has outside participation helped tmux? Is there a large
developer community surrounding this? Are there any cool features
which are going to be making an appeareance soon?

Thanks for your patience and time!

David
David Chanters
2015-02-15 20:54:03 UTC
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Hi,

Did this email make it to the list? Any takers on this?

David

On 5 February 2015 at 22:10, David Chanters
Post by David Chanters
Hey everyone,
I'm really enjoying tmux, and thank you to everyone who makes it possible!
What's the story behind tmux, and how did it start? Having read the
tmux FAQ, it's clear the author wasn't keen on the gnu screen code.
What difficulties were encountered in writing tmux from scratch?
tmux being some kind of mediator between the terminal and the
application running in tmux, is that where a lot of the challenges
come from?
To what extent has outside participation helped tmux? Is there a large
developer community surrounding this? Are there any cool features
which are going to be making an appeareance soon?
Thanks for your patience and time!
David
Christopher Ritsen
2015-02-15 21:28:10 UTC
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Post by David Chanters
Hi,
Did this email make it to the list? Any takers on this?
David
I'll reply as an echo. I don't think there is a large community developer
around this project, mostly two people the last time I checked. Git history
is going to give you more insight on this question than anyone could. I'm
going to guess that new features are added as people come up with a need for
them.
Dagobert Michelsen
2015-02-16 08:02:16 UTC
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Hi David,
Post by Christopher Ritsen
Post by David Chanters
Did this email make it to the list? Any takers on this?
I'll reply as an echo. I don't think there is a large community developer
around this project, mostly two people the last time I checked. Git history
is going to give you more insight on this question than anyone could. I'm
going to guess that new features are added as people come up with a need for
them.
For a quick glimpse see the analysis at Ohloh:
https://www.openhub.net/p/tmux


Best regards

— Dago
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Thomas Adam
2015-02-16 15:59:10 UTC
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Post by Dagobert Michelsen
Hi David,
Post by Christopher Ritsen
Post by David Chanters
Did this email make it to the list? Any takers on this?
I'll reply as an echo. I don't think there is a large community developer
around this project, mostly two people the last time I checked. Git history
is going to give you more insight on this question than anyone could. I'm
going to guess that new features are added as people come up with a need for
them.
https://www.openhub.net/p/tmux
No. That is misleading, and portrays my involvement much more than it
actually is. The committer information which those statistics are using
don't take into account the fact that the real contributor is part of the
commit message itself. See for example:

% git log | egrep -o '(from |by )[A-Z][A-Za-z0-9 ]*\.'|sort|uniq -c|sort -nr| head -n10
40 from Thomas Adam.
39 from George Nachman.
37 from Tiago Cunha.
19 from OpenBSD.
17 from Romain Francoise.
17 from J Raynor.
14 from Ben Boeckel.
12 from Chris Johnsen.
9 from Balazs Kezes.
8 from Micah Cowan.

-- Thomas Adam
Christopher Ritsen
2015-02-16 17:27:35 UTC
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Post by Thomas Adam
Post by Dagobert Michelsen
https://www.openhub.net/p/tmux
% git log | egrep -o '(from |by )[A-Z][A-Za-z0-9 ]*\.'|sort|uniq -c|sort -nr| head -n10
40 from Thomas Adam.
39 from George Nachman.
37 from Tiago Cunha.
The point I was trying to make was that it's not necessarily the
committer who is doing the work (they might be just applying a patch received
from elsewhere), but it would be expected that they would be attributed as the
author in the commit message.
Ben Boeckel
2015-02-22 22:30:45 UTC
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Post by Christopher Ritsen
The point I was trying to make was that it's not necessarily the
committer who is doing the work (they might be just applying a patch received
from elsewhere), but it would be expected that they would be attributed as the
author in the commit message.
Tmux also lives in OpenBSD's CVS repository which doesn't track
authorship. Is the SF repo committed to directly or do all patches still
flow through CVS?

Also, nice to see that I'm up there in contributions :) (though I think
some of mine are also attributed to my handle 'mathstuf' as well, but
those are likely to be bug reports over IRC or something).

--Ben
Thomas Adam
2015-02-25 14:48:51 UTC
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Post by Ben Boeckel
Post by Christopher Ritsen
The point I was trying to make was that it's not necessarily the
committer who is doing the work (they might be just applying a patch received
from elsewhere), but it would be expected that they would be attributed as the
author in the commit message.
Tmux also lives in OpenBSD's CVS repository which doesn't track
authorship. Is the SF repo committed to directly or do all patches still
flow through CVS?
Only portable fixes which aren't needed by OpenBSD are committed directly.
This is documented in the SYNCING file in the tmux git repo.

-- Thomas Adam
David Chanters
2015-03-10 15:12:05 UTC
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Post by Thomas Adam
% git log | egrep -o '(from |by )[A-Z][A-Za-z0-9 ]*\.'|sort|uniq -c|sort -nr| head -n10
40 from Thomas Adam.
39 from George Nachman.
37 from Tiago Cunha.
19 from OpenBSD.
17 from Romain Francoise.
17 from J Raynor.
14 from Ben Boeckel.
12 from Chris Johnsen.
9 from Balazs Kezes.
8 from Micah Cowan.
i think this should go on the tmux web site some how. is this
possible? it would be nice to see some of those names.

who updates this and how is it done?

David
Thomas Adam
2015-03-11 11:24:54 UTC
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Post by David Chanters
Post by Thomas Adam
% git log | egrep -o '(from |by )[A-Z][A-Za-z0-9 ]*\.'|sort|uniq -c|sort -nr| head -n10
40 from Thomas Adam.
39 from George Nachman.
37 from Tiago Cunha.
19 from OpenBSD.
17 from Romain Francoise.
17 from J Raynor.
14 from Ben Boeckel.
12 from Chris Johnsen.
9 from Balazs Kezes.
8 from Micah Cowan.
i think this should go on the tmux web site some how. is this
possible? it would be nice to see some of those names.
who updates this and how is it done?
Both Nicholas and I have the ability to update the web site.

However, how strongly do people feel about needing this information, either
on the web site or some file in Git? It would be a slight nuisance to
maintain, although it could just about be scripted, minus a few obvious
exclusions.

-- Thomas Adam
Nicholas Marriott
2015-03-11 12:41:25 UTC
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All the commit history is in git, we don't need a list somewhere else.
Post by Thomas Adam
Post by David Chanters
Post by Thomas Adam
% git log | egrep -o '(from |by )[A-Z][A-Za-z0-9 ]*\.'|sort|uniq -c|sort -nr| head -n10
40 from Thomas Adam.
39 from George Nachman.
37 from Tiago Cunha.
19 from OpenBSD.
17 from Romain Francoise.
17 from J Raynor.
14 from Ben Boeckel.
12 from Chris Johnsen.
9 from Balazs Kezes.
8 from Micah Cowan.
i think this should go on the tmux web site some how. is this
possible? it would be nice to see some of those names.
who updates this and how is it done?
Both Nicholas and I have the ability to update the web site.
However, how strongly do people feel about needing this information, either
on the web site or some file in Git? It would be a slight nuisance to
maintain, although it could just about be scripted, minus a few obvious
exclusions.
-- Thomas Adam
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David Chanters
2015-03-18 10:30:39 UTC
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Hi,

but a lot of other projects do and i think that's important. why is
this one different?

if you won't have such a list, would you consider adding something to
the web page telling users how they can find out how the contributors
are? something like the git command mentioned earlier in this email
thread?

David

On 11 March 2015 at 12:41, Nicholas Marriott
Post by Nicholas Marriott
All the commit history is in git, we don't need a list somewhere else.
Post by Thomas Adam
Post by David Chanters
Post by Thomas Adam
% git log | egrep -o '(from |by )[A-Z][A-Za-z0-9 ]*\.'|sort|uniq -c|sort -nr| head -n10
40 from Thomas Adam.
39 from George Nachman.
37 from Tiago Cunha.
19 from OpenBSD.
17 from Romain Francoise.
17 from J Raynor.
14 from Ben Boeckel.
12 from Chris Johnsen.
9 from Balazs Kezes.
8 from Micah Cowan.
i think this should go on the tmux web site some how. is this
possible? it would be nice to see some of those names.
who updates this and how is it done?
Both Nicholas and I have the ability to update the web site.
However, how strongly do people feel about needing this information, either
on the web site or some file in Git? It would be a slight nuisance to
maintain, although it could just about be scripted, minus a few obvious
exclusions.
-- Thomas Adam
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by Intel and developed in partnership with Slashdot Media, is your hub for all
things parallel software development, from weekly thought leadership blogs to
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